{"id":27793,"date":"2019-01-08T17:05:23","date_gmt":"2019-01-08T16:05:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/conversem\/"},"modified":"2023-04-20T09:40:37","modified_gmt":"2023-04-20T07:40:37","slug":"conversemos","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/conversemos\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversemos"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_auto\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator separador_inicial size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h1>Conversemos<\/h1>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator separador_inicial size_medium\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_auto\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row caja_gris via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h3><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/pro-europa\/\">Pro Europa<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_small\"><\/div><div class=\"w-grid type_grid layout_28089\" id=\"us_grid_1\" style=\"--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><style>.layout_28089 .w-grid-item-h{}.layout_28089 .usg_post_title_1{font-family:var(--font-family)!important;font-size:18px!important;font-weight:700!important}.layout_28089 .usg_post_date_1{margin-bottom:0px!important;font-family:var(--font-family)!important;font-size:13px!important;color:#aab2bd!important}.layout_28089 .usg_post_author_1{font-family:var(--font-family)!important;font-size:15px!important}@media (max-width:600px){.layout_28089 .usg_post_date_1{font-size:13px!important}.layout_28089 .usg_post_author_1{font-size:15px!important}}<\/style><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-87924 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-pro-europa-es tag-china tag-deng-xiaoping\" data-id=\"87924\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_left valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 espai_central_img as_circle stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/la-reemergencia-de-china-es-el-factor-determinante-de-la-nueva-geopolitica-mundial\/\" aria-label=\"La reemergencia de China es el factor determinante de la nueva geopol\u00edtica mundial\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" data-src=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image lazyload\" alt=\"la reemergencia de China\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640-350x350.jpg 350w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/china-2815788_640.jpg 640w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 150px; 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Catalanidad, catalanismo y nacionalismo pujoliano (V)<\/a><\/h3><time class=\"w-post-elm post_date usg_post_date_1 has_text_color entry-date published\" datetime=\"2026-07-02T12:31:50+02:00\">2 julio, 2026<\/time><div class=\"w-post-elm post_author usg_post_author_1 vcard author color_link_inherit\"><div class=\"post-author-meta\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/author\/josep-miro-i-ardevol\/\" class=\"post-author-name fn\">Josep Mir\u00f3 i Ard\u00e8vol<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div><div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:121,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;28089&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;{\\&quot;url\\&quot;:\\&quot;\\&quot;}&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;post&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;el-blog-de-josep-miro-i-ardevol-es&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;2&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;post&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:2,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:2,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;es&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container caja_derecha_col\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner us_custom_d507cff7\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row caja_gris via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h3><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/veritas-in-caritate\/\">Veritas in caritate<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_small\"><\/div><div class=\"w-grid type_grid layout_28089\" id=\"us_grid_3\" style=\"--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-100267 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-veritas-in-caritate-es tag-alianca-catalana-es tag-jordi-pujol-es tag-silvia-orriols\" data-id=\"100267\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_left valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 espai_central_img as_circle stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/silvia-orriols-no-es-jordi-pujol\/\" aria-label=\"S\u00edlvia Orriols no es Jordi Pujol\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" data-src=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/PUJOL_JOVE_100KB-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image lazyload\" alt=\"Silvia Orriols no es Jordi Pujol\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/PUJOL_JOVE_100KB-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/PUJOL_JOVE_100KB-350x350.jpg 350w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/PUJOL_JOVE_100KB-600x600.jpg 600w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 150px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 150\/150;\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_left valign_top\"><h3 class=\"w-post-elm post_title usg_post_title_1 entry-title color_link_inherit\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/silvia-orriols-no-es-jordi-pujol\/\">S\u00edlvia Orriols no es Jordi Pujol<\/a><\/h3><time class=\"w-post-elm post_date usg_post_date_1 has_text_color entry-date published\" datetime=\"2026-07-15T05:22:36+02:00\">15 julio, 2026<\/time><div class=\"w-post-elm post_author usg_post_author_1 vcard author color_link_inherit\"><div class=\"post-author-meta\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/author\/carles-ros-arpa\/\" class=\"post-author-name fn\">Carles Ros Arpa<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-98765 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-veritas-in-caritate-es tag-maga tag-trump-es tag-trumpisme-es\" data-id=\"98765\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_left valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 espai_central_img as_circle stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/trump-y-el-patriotismo\/\" aria-label=\"Trump y el patriotismo\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" data-src=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/MAGA_edited-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image lazyload\" alt=\"\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/MAGA_edited-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/MAGA_edited-350x350.jpg 350w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 150px; 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En el centro de su proyecto est\u00e1\u00a0el MAGA\u00a0(\u201cHagamos Estados Unidos grande otra vez\u201d), un lema ciertamente patri\u00f3tico que tiene una vertiente interna y otra externa. La primera consiste en una rectificaci\u00f3n profunda de los valores que deben predominar en la sociedad norteamericana y que, por su potencia econ\u00f3mica y cultural, se extienden al resto del mundo occidental. En este sentido, el movimiento MAGA propone superar la ideolog\u00eda que ha dominado Estados Unidos y Occidente durante las \u00faltimas d\u00e9cadas, que no es el pensamiento liberal cl\u00e1sico, sino una derivaci\u00f3n de este hacia el denominado pensamiento \u201cwoke\u201d. Este comienza como una protesta para \u201cempoderar\u201d a grupos hist\u00f3ricamente marginados de la sociedad (las mujeres, las etnias desfavorecidas, los homosexuales...) y corregir comportamientos de los sectores \u201cm\u00e1s privilegiados\u201d (los hombres, los blancos, los heterosexuales...). Pero lo que comenz\u00f3 siendo una reacci\u00f3n que supuestamente buscaba un reequilibrio acab\u00f3 derivando en una ideolog\u00eda hegem\u00f3nica, tanto pol\u00edtica como culturalmente, que impone relecturas de la historia, fomenta el adoctrinamiento en los medios de comunicaci\u00f3n y en las escuelas, y genera un sentimiento de desprecio de los occidentales hacia su propia historia, tradici\u00f3n y valores. El movimiento MAGA y el sector del Partido Republicano liderado por Trump consideraban que estas pol\u00edticas, aplicadas durante los a\u00f1os de las presidencias\u00a0de Obama y Biden\u00a0y que la candidata\u00a0Kamala Harris\u00a0promet\u00eda continuar, representan no solo una amenaza para los valores de la familia, sino tambi\u00e9n para la propia democracia y la fuerza moral de la naci\u00f3n. Por tanto, para hacer grande Am\u00e9rica otra vez, hab\u00eda que poner fin a la \"tiran\u00eda woke\". En esta\u00a0vertiente interna y de reconfiguraci\u00f3n ideol\u00f3gica,\u00a0Trump sigue generando\u00a0grandes adhesiones\u00a0entre los suyos y tambi\u00e9n entre personas ajenas a la guerra pol\u00edtica y cultural entre republicanos y dem\u00f3cratas, pero que consideran que estos \u00faltimos hab\u00edan ido demasiado lejos en sus pol\u00edticas woke. As\u00ed, a un patriota estadounidense le resultaba m\u00e1s f\u00e1cil identificarse con el programa de Trump que con la propuesta de Harris de profundizar en pol\u00edticas de feminismo radical, proabortistas y autoflagelaci\u00f3n de los hombres blancos heterosexuales. Y es razonable pensar que si muchas de estas propuestas morales y culturales las hubiera defendido un l\u00edder republicano menos estrafalario, habr\u00edan obtenido a\u00fan m\u00e1s adhesiones. En la vertiente exterior, el MAGA se traduce en una pol\u00edtica de aislamiento y \u201crealpolitik\u201d:\u00a0priorizar los intereses nacionales inmediatos por encima de las alianzas internacionales tradicionales; proteccionismo econ\u00f3mico, con un uso intensivo de aranceles para proteger a la industria nacional; control estricto de fronteras; y una reedici\u00f3n de la doctrina Monroe, con una visi\u00f3n expansionista en Latinoam\u00e9rica para limitar la influencia extranjera, sobre todo de China. La aplicaci\u00f3n de esta pol\u00edtica exterior del MAGA se ha visto condicionada por la personalidad y la forma peculiar de hacer del presidente Trump. Estados Unidos podr\u00eda haber llevado a cabo este nuevo enfoque de la pol\u00edtica exterior sin tantas extravagancias ni la necesidad de enemistad con buena parte de sus aliados. El talante de Trump ha hecho tambi\u00e9n que se alejase de la l\u00ednea aislacionista del MAGA. As\u00ed ha sido, claramente, en el\u00a0caso de Ir\u00e1n,\u00a0donde ha actuado sin acuerdo ni coordinaci\u00f3n previa con los aliados occidentales y con Netanyahu como gu\u00eda y \u00fanico compa\u00f1ero de viaje. Antes de las vicisitudes propias de Trump y del trumpismo, en 1984 Alasdair MacIntyre, en el art\u00edculo \u201c\u00bfEs el patriotismo una virtud?\u201d, hac\u00eda algunas reflexiones que ahora vienen al caso. El gran autor de la filosof\u00eda moral contempor\u00e1nea se preguntaba si era compatible una actuaci\u00f3n moral guiada por el patriotismo \u2014que exige a la persona una devoci\u00f3n especial hacia su naci\u00f3n\u2014 con la moralidad impersonal y universal de origen kantiano, propia de la tradici\u00f3n liberal, que obliga a abstraerse de toda afecci\u00f3n y particularismo en el juicio moral. MacIntyre\u00a0concluye que ambos puntos de vista no deben estar necesariamente en conflicto, siempre que el patriotismo y las dem\u00e1s lealtades particulares no excedan los l\u00edmites impuestos por la moralidad impersonal. Por tanto, una pol\u00edtica \u201cpatri\u00f3tica\u201d que pretenda hacer prevalecer los intereses propios o su hegemon\u00eda vulnerando el orden internacional y la soberan\u00eda de las dem\u00e1s naciones no es moralmente admisible. Por \u00faltimo,\u00a0Trump ha encontrado en Le\u00f3n XIV su gran adversario moral.\u00a0El Papa ha denunciado la inmoralidad de la guerra preventiva, la muerte de civiles inocentes y la amenaza de destrucci\u00f3n de toda una naci\u00f3n. La moraleja del programa MAGA en su vertiente exterior pod\u00eda generar algunas dudas; lo que ha terminado haciendo Trump es directamente inadmisible. Twitter:@ros_arpa Art\u00edculo publicado en el Diari de Girona el 9 de mayo de 2026","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-27793","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Conversemos - Converses a Catalunya<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"es_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Conversemos - Converses a Catalunya\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/conversemos\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Converses a Catalunya\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2023-04-20T07:40:37+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Tiempo de lectura\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"1 minuto\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/conversemos\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/conversesacatalunya.cat\/es\/conversemos\/\",\"name\":\"Conversemos - 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